rant one.

Posted by Jimmy on June 22, 2009
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So I’m a gamer.

I’m ten years younger than the ‘average’ gamer, but I still feel like I’ve been at it a while. I did the whole World of Warcraft thing (I’ve no shame…), Tony Hawks, Burnout, Resistance, Counter Strike. My latest was Killzone 2 and it’s no Half Life, but it’s a good romp with incredible graphics.

But it’s got me thinking it really has. How does my gaming fit into my Christianity? Movies, books and music are thought about a lot in Christian terms and the proliferation of Christianity into those mediums is extensive. But for whatever reason with regards to gaming the community is relatively quiet. That’s not to say Christians aren’t gamers, in fact quite the opposite in my experience, but there is definitely still some distance between the way we think about games and the way we think about our other forms of entertainment.

I don’t have any concrete views I’m looking to plug here, I just want to get thinking.

So here’s the crux of it. The question I’m asking myself is – am I going to be able to rid the earth, by gratuitously violent means, of various social and virtual evils in Heaven? My instinctive, knee jerk response is no. There’s no more crying or pain or tears or death, but does that mean that no more Metal Gear Solid? There’s no violence in Heaven, so there’s no Halo either, right?

If this is the case, then surely it must be wrong, even sinful for me to enjoy these games so much now. Or is it okay because I’m only shooting Helghan and not humans? Are we really going to want to recreate the horrors of war in Heaven? So why do we enjoy it so much now? It feels like I’m just making the most of death while it lasts.

Gaming is gift from God, I know. It’s something to zone out to, to have a riot with your mates. There’s way too much good in it for me to condemn it completely. So how do we reconcile that to the violence in games or to the deficiency in morals that it promotes? Or are these not problems at all?

Questions, questions, questions. I want to hear your thoughts. Let’s try and come up with some answers for my next post.

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11 Comments to rant one.

stephenmac
June 22, 2009

haha, I and another brother gamer (Mike L) had a similar discussion last year after we realised how much time we were spending in WoW (World of Warcraft).

Our ideas:
1. Always say grace while playing a game – God is the creator of everything, and I guess that includes games too. So I guess that means that God created Azeroth! I should be thankful for that. (I need to take this one to heart)
2. Don’t let games become an idol:
a. Use them for the building of relationships. On this point, I must admit that I am guilty of the WoW sin of WoW-gelism, but I’m unapologetic. If I’m playing with a random stranger, then I’ll start up a conversation and pray that it leads to the Gospel. I’ve had a few decent conversations, and I pray that God will use those planted seeds. And I know of fruit. There is a couple whom I met in my guild who are Christians in NZ. They don’t get to attend church due to shift work, but I’ve hopefully helped encourage them with other resources.
b. Beware escapism. Why are you trying to escape God’s good creation? If it’s cos the world sucks, maybe not such a good idea. If it’s to take time out to chill, then OK.
3. On the question of violence… I guess its the same as watching a violent movie. Gratuitous violence is unnecessary (c.f. Soldier of Fortune etc). Unnecessary violence is unnecessary (c.f. GTA). But some violence adds to the tension of the game, just like any good movie. But if all your games are violent… I’m struggling to think of a game that isn’t though… I guess the question is “Why violence?” What is the purpose of violence in the game? If its a tool for tension/storyline, maybe ok, but it violence is enjoyable (aka GTA) then that’s when I would have issues…

Good ideas mate… need to keep thinking about it :D
S

Mark
June 22, 2009

Wow, great thoughts fellas. I reckon this is a really hard one to think about but worth doing… One of our lectures from college challenged me to think about the fact that we’ll be in heaven with people from all ages and places. What does that do to our preconceptions of physical activity? Surely all cultures carry a norm about what constitutes violence, and that’s all gonnna be relativised in heaven. 10 bucks to anyone who can specify any details on that though…

dave miers
June 22, 2009

I’m reminded of the story that john piper tells in the beginning of ‘don’t waste your life’ (free download http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/OnlineBooks/ByTitle/1593_Dont_Waste_Your_Life/) about the couple who take an early retirement to collect seashells… and piper says “picture them before Christ at the great day of judgment: ‘look, Lord. See my shells.’ that is a tragedy.”

i can’t help but think of video games as a great tragedy.
yes – there is good. there are relational opportunities to get to know people and talk to them about Jesus (i know of a guy who owns one of those computer link up lan shop things that runs a bible study with a bunch of the young guys who come along – that’s shrewd).

i think that video games are an incredible time waster – just like watching 3 movies a day is a great time waster, ‘social networking’ on facebook for 6 hours a day is a great time waster and being able to quote more of the simpsons than the bible. too many Christians spend too much time on video games – that it’s no longer good for their health and godliness.

i don’t want to stand before God having wasted my life. video games aren’t a problem for me – but i nonetheless have my own ways of wasting my life.

don’t waste it homies.

Sam C
June 22, 2009

Good post. I’m an ex-gamer (anyone heard of Tribes? Plus the usual suspects, CS & WoW). Here’s some of the questions I ask myself:

1. Is the content (audio/visual) I’m taking into my mind as *leisure* something which Christ would approve of? How does it stand up against Philippians 4:8?

2. Is this game glorifying violence & sin? (ie. CS)

3. Is this *helpful* for me in becoming more like Christ?

4. How much time do I waste on games? Am I going to look back one day and weep at my rich white Western butt sitting in front of computer while the needs of the world (both temporal & physical) roll by?

On top of the above, personally, I know I find it easy to use games/movies/fiction etc as a form of escapism and a way to avoid the real world (2.c in Stephens post), and this is very unhelpful for me.

Also, totally agree that we shouldn’t dismiss all sense of enjoyment had from games as “sinful”. But it is hard to divide it up. There’s the abstract enjoyment of competition and strategizing, which I think is quite harmless. But then one could also wallow in violence and fantasy and enjoy that too, in a vicarious manner, but perhaps not so innocently. I wouldn’t want to try and define this too rigidly, but I think these two poles of “enjoyment” do exist.

Blessings,
Sam.

Seumas
June 23, 2009

Good questions to be asking. Here are a few thoughts about where the thinking needs to go:

1. We need a strong enough understanding of rest and leisure that doesn’t compell us to turn every single moment into explicit evangelism and workaholism. That’s what secures a space for culture and gaming in particular.
2. We need a strong enough theology of representation, otherwise we will need to abandon drama, movies, art, and gaming. Artistic mimicry has important differences to reality (I think this is key in understanding violence in gaming).
3. We need to stop giving violence a free ride in media consumption. Christians regularly worry and get uptight about the portrayal about sex. I suggest we should pay more attention to the place of violence in our media.
4. Learn to play games with a moral code within the game. Many games these days are deliberately set up to have ‘good’ and ‘bad’ paths. Refuse to play to evil.

stephenmac
June 23, 2009

@Dave
i can’t help but think of video games as a great tragedy.
Nein! (quote/unquote :P )
Yea, sorry Dave, don’t agree with you on this one. Games can become a great time waster, and yet I think that to call it a “great tragedy” is going a bit far.

What is it about games that makes them any more of a time waster than other things? How is this form of entertainment any different to any other form of entertainment that it requires special condemnation? What is the difference between this and twitting every 30s, blogging constantly, FB’ing, reading in all it’s forms, excessive sport, movies, TV, etc?

The problem is games in excess and not games in themselves. There is quite a big difference.

@Sam: I found 1 & 3 helpful mate! good point

@Seumas: great questions mate.
re 1: true, but that understanding of rest and leisure shouldn’t preclude evangelism should the opportunity rise.
re 2: could you please explain “representation” for the ignorant (like myself)
re 3 & 4: good call. I’m with you on those.

Seumas
June 23, 2009

@stephenmac,
re #3: What I mean is that gaming, and video gaming is what we are focused on here, is an art form that deals in representation. ie, visual art presents ‘representations’ of real or imagined objects; a play presents a representation of characters.

There is one, relatively small, strand of philosophical thought that considers all these forms of art to be a subset of lying. I don’t think that cuts it. So, the need is for a theoretical framework: how do we deal with the rules of representation?

To make the whole thing more specific: I think it’s one thing to represent acts of violence, and quite another to engage in them.

dave miers
June 23, 2009

stephenmac said:

What is it about games that makes them any more of a time waster than other things? How is this form of entertainment any different to any other form of entertainment that it requires special condemnation? What is the difference between this and twitting every 30s, blogging constantly, FB’ing, reading in all it’s forms, excessive sport, movies, TV, etc?

hey man – i’m not sure if you read my comment properly.
i didn’t give games special condemnation… here’s what i said:

i think that video games are an incredible time waster – just like watching 3 movies a day is a great time waster, ’social networking’ on facebook for 6 hours a day is a great time waster and being able to quote more of the simpsons than the bible. too many Christians spend too much time on video games – that it’s no longer good for their health and godliness.

stephenmac
June 23, 2009

@Dave: good call. Sorry mate

dave miers
June 23, 2009

no worries homie.

Nick
June 24, 2009

surely Grand Theft Auto will be in heaven…won’t it? ;)

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