Gunton and the Triune Creator

Posted by Mark on August 21, 2009
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9780802845757I’ve just finished reading Colin E. Gunton’s ‘The Triune Creator‘.  His main argument seems to be that Creation is a Project which the Father works through His two hands: the Son and the Spirit.  Basically, it’s a Trinitarian rooting to the doctrine of creation.  He does a historical survey of the theology and philosophy which has led to the Platonising of the doctrine of creation, and this seems to be due to a non-Trinitarian basis within those particular doctrines of creation.  It’s an interesting read, from a thoughtful scholar.

His main bad-guys are Origen and Augustine, who have smuggled in the arch-bad-guy Plato to their thinking.  The main good-guys that Gunton holds up are Irenaeus and Basil who he posits are more Trinitarian, and less Platonic.  For instance:

“Augstine’s treatment of creation out of nothing is therefore ambivalent.  Where Irenaeus and Basil had employed it to defend the goodness of the material world, albeit a goodness sometimes qualified by remnants of platonism, Augustine has taken a step back.” p79.

Of all the chapters, I particularly found the final chapter really helpful.  It’s on Eschatology and Ethics and tries to navigate throught the ‘Futurist’ and ‘Eschatological’ theologies of Moltmann and Pannenberg so that the whole project of creation impacts the present.  He goes more with Pannenberg, than Moltmann:

“What has been attempted is a theological basis for a right use of the inescapable human dominion, one implying a measure of human responsibility for the way things are, but also falling far short of the ecologically oriented theology of creation of Moltmann” p228.

My only criticisms were a) that the first half of the book was just painful to get through.  It wasn’t a very tightly wound argument and felt like he was just rambling – which I suspect he was, b) that I felt that Gunton treated Augustine very unfairly – something like Gunton’s own punching-bag.*  But, c) my main area of disagreement with Gunton was in his Christcentric interpretation of the imago dei on pages 198-200: that the image of God in mankind ought to be seen primarily in light of the incarnate Christ as per the Colossian hymn.

Firstly, this doesn’t seem biblical to me. It doesn’t account for the abundance of texts which refers to Christ being made in human likeness.  Eg, Rom. 8:3, Phil 2:7-8, Heb 2:14.  No matter how Christocentrically you want to twist the texts, I think these texts of Scripture militate against that reading – Christ was made in our likeness!

Secondly, it seems nonsensical.  If the Colossian hymn pushes us to see that all things were made in him (the image of the invisible God), then we are talking about the pre-incarnate Christ! After all, it makes no sense to think about an incarnate Christ prior to Eden! Surely reading the Colossian hymn with the pre-incarnate Christ in view is a more sensible and Christocentric way to go!

I think I’d prefer to go with the standard interpretation of the Image of God.  Bavinck summarises nicely:

“Scripture repeatedly tells us that humankind was made in the image of God, not that we have been modeled on Christ, but that he was made [human] in our likeness (Rom. 8:3, Phil. 2:7-8, Heb. 2:14), and that we, having been conformed to the image of Christ, are now again becoming like God (Rom. 8:29, 1 Cor 15:49, 2 Cor. 3:18, Phil 3:21, Eph. 4:24, Col 3:10, 1 John 3:2). Reformed Dogmatics, Vol2, p554.

So, all in all, this was a stimulating book to read.  Helpful, and good for sharpening.  Let me finish with what I thought was a beautiful section of his book:

“Art is thus one of the human ways of participating in God’s project of creation.  It is redemptive in the sense that it is an activity which enables the creation to reach towards the perfection that is its destiny.  And it enables us to articulate the criterion for an ethic of creation: action for the glory of God.” p234.

* Mark Thompson is blogging on Augustine, so head over here and see how it squares up with Gunton’s punching bag!  Further, Gunton has been critiqued for misreading Augustine (see, Neil Ormerod and Michel René Barnes from Seamus’ blog here)

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7 Comments to Gunton and the Triune Creator

Matthew Moffitt
August 21, 2009

Thanks Mark.

Doesn’t Christ, as the last Adam, reflect what the new looks like? If we are being transformed into his image, than doesn’t that mean Jesus is the true humanity?

Mark
August 21, 2009

No worries Matt – hope you’re well bro!

Yes, I would say that for Christians (those in Christ), being transformed into his image, to be more Christ-like, progressively sanctified – is to be conformed to his image. Certainly, this is what it is to be truly human. And this has got to be one of the greatest privileges of being in Christ, and one of the greatest things to look forward to (our final sanctification) in the renewed and restored creation!

andrewE
August 22, 2009

Mark, can I push back a little on your second criticism?

You say to see Christ as the true human because truly “the image of God” is nonsensical because of timing: how could all things be made through the incarnate Christ? This is a fair question; but it’s also one that Paul pushes us too, because he immediately qualifies “He is the image of God” with “the firstborn of all creation”. It is hard, I think, to apply this second description to the logos asarkos, don’t you think? Furthermore, if God is beyond time (which I think you think he is), why can he not make creation in some sense through the mediation of the Christ who becomes incarnate—the lamb destined before the foundation of the world (1 Pet 1:19–20)?

Secondly, I don’t think you give an adequate positive account here for what Paul is doing with the language “image of God”. If Paul is not making reference to Genesis 1 and saying something like Christ is the true form of humanity, and possibly suggesting that for human beings to be made in the image of God is to be made after the model of Jesus.

Mark
August 22, 2009

Ero, absolutely mate. Really appreciate the sharpening! Let me see if I can throw some thoughts back. Two replies to your first point, and one to your second.

1.a) You ask about the “firstborn of all creation” in relation to the logos ensarkos rather than the logos asarkos. I haven’t checked any commentators yet, but it seems problematic when we read Scripture in light of Scripture. For if Phil. 2:7-8 speaks of the logos ensarkos being born in the likeness of men, and Col 1:15 speaks of men being born in the likeness of the logos ensarkos, the we have an incoherent infinite regress! Man was made in Christ’s likeness, but Christ was made in Man’s! This interpretation seems highly problematic.

Rather, if Col 1:15 firstborn language speaks the same firstborn language of Ps 89:27 and Proverbs 8:22-31 (particularly vv.24, 25, 30), then Col 1:15 more likely speaks of Christ’s image and firstborn-ness in the sense of royal Wisdom begotten of the Father. And this would comport neatly with John’s prologue and Hebrews 1.

Thus, I think an interpretation of Col 1:15 with the logos ensarkos in view puts too much strain on the text, and doesn’t really cohere with the rest of Scripture. Even Doyle said it was one of Barth’s bad days!

1.b) Regarding the time and mediation issue. This is an interesting question that I’d love to hear your thoughts on too! Here’s what I think:

Let (A) be “Christ became Incarnate in historical time“. This is a sound assertion since materiality requires time and space.
Let (B) be “Before Creation there was no historical time.” It is assumed that time and space began with creation ex nihilo.

Since (A) and (B),
therefore (C) = “Christ was not incarnate before creation”

But you may ask, “Could not the transcendent God (who is Spirit – John 4:24) look from all eternity and mediate day 1 from Christ’s incarnation on day 2523626245354?”

And I would answer, “It depends on what you mean by mediate.”

Since God is all-knowing and immutable, Christ is fully divine, there is no change in Christ’s natures (Chalcedonian creed), and there is no pre-temporal logos ensarkos, then I’d want to ask what sort of mediation have you got in mind?

The 1 Peter 1:19-20 language of ‘destined’ would fit nicely if by “mediation” we meant “with a view to” (more of a teleological, or in Gunton’s words, “project” understanding of mediation). Thus, I’d be happy to substitute “mediation” with “with a view to” to produce something like:

“God makes creation in some sense with a view to Christ who becomes incarnate – the lamb destined before the foundation of the world.”

And this would fit neatly with the classic (read: not neo-orthodox) understanding of the Image of God. Which might help with an answer to your second question! Actually, I think Bavinck’s quote above should suffice.

Anyway, sorry about the long post. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this too. Cheers brother, Mark.

Seumas
August 22, 2009

Always good to drop by. Think you’re basically on the right track, re: the Augustine material. Won’t venture anything to deep, since I confess to not having read the whole book!

Seumas
August 22, 2009

oh, typos, bane of online existence. I meant *too deep.

andrewE
August 24, 2009

OK. Nice response. I think I agree with you. “with a view to” is a nice way to describe it.

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