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		<title>Bending our wills</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the major things which I learnt last year at college was the importance of the fact that Christ has not one will (monothelitism), but two (dyothelitism).  When Christ cried out in Gethsemene, &#8216;not my will, but your will be done&#8217; I&#8217;m reminded that Christ was very human as indeed I am; that his &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.earngey.info/2012/01/10/bending-our-wills/">Continue reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the major things which I learnt last year at college was the importance of the fact that Christ has not one will (monothelitism), but two (dyothelitism).  When Christ cried out in Gethsemene, &#8216;not my will, but your will be done&#8217; I&#8217;m reminded that Christ was very human as indeed I am; that his will needed to bent towards obedient living, just as my will does.  Jaroslav Pelikan explains this Christological insight starting at the Trinity (it&#8217;s a bit technical &#8211; sorry!):</p>
<p>&#8216;In the Trinity there were three hypostases, but only one divine nature; otherwise there would be three gods.  There was also a single will and a single action.  Thus will was an attribute of a nature and not of a hypostasis, natural and not hypostatic.  Hence, the person of Christ, with a single hypostasis and two natures, had to have two wills, one for each nature.&#8217; (<em>The Christian Tradition: A History of the Development of Doctrine.  Vol 2.  The Spirit of Eastern Christendom, p72</em>).</p>
<p>Wow &#8211; my human will &#8211; just like Christ&#8217;s &#8211; needs to be obedient.  Having recently been reading through Galatians, and being reminded of the need to live according to the &#8216;spirit&#8217; rather than the &#8216;flesh&#8217;, my prayer has been to have my will bent as per &#8216;living in the spirit&#8217;.  I can&#8217;t think of any better way to begin the year than to ask God to incline our wills towards Him, and bend our wills by the transforming power of the Holy Spirit.  &#8221;Not my will, but yours be done.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Pilgrim&#8217;s Podcast #34: Seumas MacDonald, Christology, Impassibility, and Haggis!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 23:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a cracker of a podcast! Punk music, Latin, Skateboarding, Christology, Purple hair, Impassibility, and Haggis &#8211; all in one episode! Seumas MacDonald, a great bloke whom I&#8217;m had the pleasure of meeting recently joins us on this podcast.  Seumas is currently undertaking his MTh at Moore Theological College and is putting his Latin &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.earngey.info/2010/05/31/pilgrims-podcast-34-seumas-macdonald-christology-impassibility-and-haggis/">Continue reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a rel="attachment wp-att-899" href="http://www.earngey.info/2010/05/31/pilgrims-podcast-34-seumas-macdonald-christology-impassibility-and-haggis/pplogo2-30/"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-899" title="PPlogo2" src="http://www.earngey.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/PPlogo24-250x221.jpg" alt="" width="250" height="221" /></a>This is a cracker of a podcast! Punk music, Latin, Skateboarding, Christology, Purple hair, Impassibility, and Haggis &#8211; all in one episode!</p>
<p><strong>Seumas MacDonald</strong>, a great bloke whom I&#8217;m had the pleasure of meeting recently joins us on this podcast.  Seumas is currently undertaking his MTh at Moore Theological College and is putting his<strong> Latin skills</strong> to use as he studies through <strong>St. John Chrysostom&#8217;s sermons</strong>! I&#8217;ve found Seumas to be a really lovely and thoughtful bloke who has a serious love of theology &#8211; check out <a href="http://jeltzz.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">his blog here</a>.  And his recently installed <a href="http://www.jeltzz.com/cotidie/" target="_blank">languages blog here</a>.</p>
<p>In this podcast, we discuss how Seumas came to <strong>faith in Christ</strong>, find out a bit about <strong>St. John Chrysostom</strong>, and delve into the subject of <strong>Impassibility</strong>: <strong>Does God Suffer?</strong> Really great thoughts and insights from Seumas, and I heartily recommend his thoughts and suggestions on how to think Christologically.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Read:</span></strong><br />
<a href="http://jeltzz.blogspot.com/2010/05/follow-up-to-podcast.html" target="_blank">Seumas has some follow-up thoughts from the podcast</a>.  Great resources particularly on the subject of Impassibility.</p>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;">PS:</span></strong><br />
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		<title>St. Cyril and the Suffering of God</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since late last year I&#8217;ve been reading and thinking about a whole lot of Christological things.  Fascinating stuff which simply leads me to wonder and praise!  I think I might blog a little through some thing soon, but here&#8217;s an absolutely brilliant quote from Fr. Thomas Weinandy on Cyril&#8217;s understanding of the suffering of God: &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.earngey.info/2010/04/12/st-cyril-and-the-suffering-of-god/">Continue reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-845" title="cyril of jerusalem" src="http://www.earngey.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/st__cyril-250x246.jpg" alt="cyril of jerusalem" width="250" height="246" />Since late last year I&#8217;ve been reading and thinking about a whole lot of Christological things.  Fascinating stuff which simply leads me to wonder and praise!  I think I might blog a little through some thing soon, but here&#8217;s an absolutely brilliant quote from Fr. Thomas Weinandy on Cyril&#8217;s understanding of the suffering of God:</p>
<p>&#8220;For Cyril this is the marvellous truth of the Incarnation.  God from all eternity may have known, within his divine knowledge, what it is like for human beings to suffer and die, and he may have known this perfectly and comprehensively.  But until the Son of God became man and existed as man, the Son of God, who is impassible in himself as God, never experienced and knew suffering and death as man <em>in a human manner</em>.  In an unqualified manner one can say that, as man, the Son of God had experiences he never had before because he never existed as man before &#8211; not the least of which are suffering and death.  This is what, for Cyril a proper understanding of the Incarnation requires and affirms, and this is what the communication of the idioms so remarkably, clearly, and even scandalously safeguards, advocates, and confesses.</p>
<p>The eternal, almighty, all-perfect, unchangeable, and impassible divine Son, he who is equal to the Father all in ways, actually experienced, as a weak human being, the full reality of human suffering and death.  What was an infamy to the Docestists, to Arius, and to Nestorius was for Cyril and the subsequent Christian tradition the glory and grandeur of the Gospel.  <strong>Even among those today who advocate a suffering God, the Incarnation is still a scandal, for while, with the best of intentions, having locked suffering within God&#8217;s divine nature, they have, in so doing, locked God out of human suffering.</strong>&#8221; (pg52-53, <em>The Theology of St. Cyril of Alexandria: A Critical Appreciation</em>)</p>
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		<title>Christology and Carrots</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My journey in thinking about the Extra Calvinisticum has now taken me to the realm of what&#8217;s known as the communicatio idiomatum (english: the Communication of the Attributes).  That the attributes (such as omniscience, omnipresence, immensity etc) cannot be transferred between the human and divine natures of Jesus, but are correctly predicated of his person and &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.earngey.info/2010/03/02/christology-and-carrots/">Continue reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-817" title="carrots" src="http://www.earngey.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/carrots-150x150.jpg" alt="carrots" width="150" height="150" />My journey in thinking about the <strong>Extra Calvinisticum</strong> has now taken me to the realm of what&#8217;s known as the <em>communicatio idiomatum </em>(english: the Communication of the Attributes).  That the attributes (such as omniscience, omnipresence, immensity etc) cannot be transferred between the human and divine natures of Jesus, but are correctly predicated of his person and also are referred to using the reduplicative expression (<em>as </em>man, or <em>as </em>God) .  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Weinandy" target="_blank">Thomas G. Weinandy</a> in <em>Does God Suffer? </em>has recounted a great little example that he shares with his students &#8211; what do you think?</p>
<p>&#8220;Jesus goes to Martha&#8217;s, Mary&#8217;s, and Lazarus&#8217; home for dinner.  Martha serves as a starter (to use the English term) raw carrots with garlic dip (a yet to be discovered American culinary invention).  Jesus ate the carrots.  Who was it who ate the carrots?  Who was the acting subject?  It was the Son of God who ate the carrots.  Was he eating the carrots as God or as man?  Obviously, he was eating the carrots as man.  God as God cannot eat carrots for he does not have teeth, a mouth, a stomach etc.  Lazarus also ate the carrots, but unfortunately he ate a rotten carrot and died of food poisoning.  Four days later Jesus returned and raised Lazarus from the dead.  Who was it who raised Lazarus from the dead?  It was the Son of God who raised Lazarus from the dead.  But did he raise Lazarus from the dead as God or as man?  At this juncture there is silence among the students.  Inevitably the more pious students first break the silence by saying that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead &#8216;as God.&#8217;  I remain silent.  Then some brave soul, usually a girl, will hesitantly whisper, almost inaudibly, &#8216;as man.&#8217;  That is precisely the correct answer.</p>
<p>Within the Incarnation the Son of God never does anything as God.  If he did, he would be acting as God <em>in a man</em>.  This the Incarnation will never permit.  All that Jesus did as the Son of God was done <em>as a man </em>- whether it was eating carrots, or raising someone from the dead.  He may have raised Lazarus from the dead by his divine power or, better, by the power of the Holy Spirit, but it was, nonetheless, as man that he did so.  Similarly, the Son of God did not suffer as God in a man, for to do so would mean that he was not a man.  The Son of God suffered as a man.&#8221; (pg 205).</p>
<p>Ironically, as I&#8217;ll go on to show in another post (sometime&#8230; I&#8217;ve been pretty slack lately!), protecting God&#8217;s impassibility is done in order to uphold Christ&#8217;s humanity &#8211; particularly his solidarity in our weakness!</p>
<p>Oh, <a href="http://www.mrrena.com/2004/suffer.shtml" target="_blank">here&#8217;s an excerpt</a> from the excellent book which this quote was taken from.</p>
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