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		<title>Confess or Die &#8211; Thoughts</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, over Friday evening and through Saturday, a group of about 50 of us had the privilege of hearing Carl Trueman speak on the topic of Creeds and Confessions.  It was excellent &#8211; lots of stuff to think about, and lots of great encouragement too! Carl took three sessions (with Mark Thompson taking a great &#8230; </p><p><a class="more-link block-button" href="http://www.earngey.info/2009/08/09/confess-or-die-thoughts/">Continue reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-593" title="bcp" src="http://www.earngey.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/bcp-250x162.jpg" alt="bcp" width="250" height="162" />Well, over Friday evening and through Saturday, a group of about 50 of us had the privilege of hearing Carl Trueman speak on the topic of Creeds and Confessions.  It was excellent &#8211; lots of stuff to think about, and lots of great encouragement too! Carl took three sessions (with Mark Thompson taking a great session on the 39 Articles in between) which were:</p>
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<li><strong>Christians who know what they believe in a world which believes nothing</strong></li>
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<li><strong>Confessing Christ in the future</strong></li>
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<p>These are some of the key points I thought Carl made during his lectures (it&#8217;s a little random, but worth putting down!):</p>
<p>- <strong>Contra today&#8217;s emphasis</strong> on <em>progress, and the future</em>, Christians know that 1) Truth is verbally formulated, 2) There are bodies which do the formulation, and 3) Truth can, to some extent, cross time and space.<br />
- <strong>God does Church</strong>, we don&#8217;t! And Church is a doctrinal entity (not purely experiential), which presupposes knowledge and experience, which in turn presupposes office (Heb 14:7-9, 1 Tim 5:17,  Romans 10:9, Titus 1:5, James 3).  Thus, training and age are important.<br />
- <strong>The order of Calvin&#8217;s institutes cannot be read up into his theology. </strong>Crucial.<br />
-<strong> There are two types of Christian</strong>: One who writes their creeds down in order to be open with what they believe, and the other who prefers to keep them in the background<br />
- The fact that Calvin and Luther didn&#8217;t reject the perpetual virginity of Mary shows how <strong>they valued tradition</strong>.<br />
- The proof-texts of the Westminster Confession of Faith point you to traditions in the commentaries &#8211; they aren&#8217;t crude and brute proofs in and of themselves.  They urge you to pick up the 30 or 40 commentaries on that verse to see why the point was made.<br />
- Confessions are necessary for corporate unity.  Eg: the Emerging Church is correct to point out the individualism of current evangelicalism, but hasn&#8217;t solved the problem since they haven&#8217;t produced any confession of belief.  Thus, they have a rubbery, non-existent corporate unity.<br />
- <strong>Confessions demonstrate our integrity</strong>.  Eg, Luther and Zwingli and their disagreement on the Lord&#8217;s Supper: [it] &#8220;was a tragedy, but would have been an even greater tragedy if they had agreed.&#8221;<br />
- <strong>Confessions require catechisms</strong>.  They are vital to the communication of the faith.  Carl agrees with Jaroslav Pelikan: &#8220;any movement that is based around personal salvation in Jesus but is divorced from creeds and confessions is doomed.&#8221;<br />
- <strong>Confessions relativise the present</strong>.  Since they stand the test of time, but they be used to measure how significant current issues are.<br />
- Carl made an interesting suggestion of <strong>preaching through confessions</strong>.  Morning worship with expository sermons, then a church family lunch, then afternoon worship with a sermon based around the week&#8217;s confessional point.<br />
- Confessions must not simply be used as a test of orthodoxy, but they should ultimately bring us back to doxology &#8211; since of course, that was in the mind of the framers!</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve been challenged to think about my doctrine of baptism, and the importance of this for my future ministry in the Anglican Church. I think I&#8217;ve been taking this doctrine quite lightly, but actually should reconsider this, in light of upholding the 39 artictles.  And also, I&#8217;d be keen to think about preaching through the 39 articles at some point also (bar the one on the Queen!).</p>
<p>So, all in all &#8211; a great conference and a great guy.  I&#8217;m looking forward to Wednesday night&#8217;s lecture back at the PTC.  It&#8217;s on BB Warfield&#8217;s theology.  <a href="http://www.ptcsydney.org/news/#ELIZAFERRIEPUBLICLECTURE" target="_blank">Info here</a>.</p>
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